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Wenn hier Vorlagen für DVD-SACD-PLayer etc, also nicht nur ältere Geräte gemacht werden, dann wäre es doch sicher auch sinnvoll eine Vorlage speziell für Mehrkanal-AV-Receiver zu machen, da diese sich ja nun extrem von Stereo-Receivern unterschieden und somit auch mit der Vorlage dieser nicht gescheit eingefügt werden können.
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If here templates for DVD-SACD-PLayer etc, so not only older devices are made, then it would surely also make sense to make a template specifically for multi-channel AV receivers, since these are now extremely different from stereo receivers and thus with the template of these can not be inserted properly.
Auch wenn man die meisten technischen Daten der aktuellen Geräte auf den Herstellerseiten nachlesen kann, so denke ich, dass das dennoch sinnvoll ist auch diese Geräte einzufügen, da speziell solche Angaben, die man in wenigen Prospekten findet (einstellbare Trennfrequenzen beispielsweise) dann hier nachlesbar wären.
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Even if you can read most of the technical data of the current devices on the manufacturer's pages, I think that this is still useful to insert these devices, because especially such information that can be found in a few brochures (adjustable crossover frequencies, for example) would then be readable here.
  
Wie denkt ihr darüber?
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How do you think about it?
  
  
===Textbaustein Nicht Vorlagenkonform===
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===Text module not template conform===
Der Textbaustein "[[Vorlage:Nicht vorlagenkonform|nicht Vorlagenkonform]]" ist meiner Meinung nach nicht (mehr) sinnvoll.
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The text module "[[Template:Not template compliant|not template compliant]]" is in my opinion not (anymore) useful.
Entweder wird ein Artikel (im wesentlichen) für gut befunden oder braucht eben noch
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Either an article is (essentially) found to be good, or it just needs
etwas [[Vorlage:Braucht Arbeit|Arbeit]]. Dabei spielt es keine Rolle, ob der Artikel der Vorlage entspricht.
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some [[Template:Needs Work|Work]]. It doesn't matter if the article conforms to the template.
Darüber hinaus macht exzessiver Gebrauch der Vorlagen die Artikel auch steril und langweilig.
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Furthermore, excessive use of the templates makes the articles sterile and boring.
Die Vorlagen sollen ja nur eine erste Starthilfe sein. Mehr Individualität schadet vielleicht nicht.
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The templates are, after all, only meant to be an initial starting point. More individuality might not hurt.
Wollen wirs wagen? Markus
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Shall we dare? Markus
  
Meine Meinung:
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My opinion:
Zumindest die Basisdaten sollten schon gleich sein damit man schnell einen Überblick hat und alles dort ist, wo man es sucht. Abmessungen, Baujahr, Preis etc gehören da schon in ein Standardformat. Außerdem soll das hier eine Art Tabellenbuch sein, da ist auch alles gleich aufgebaut.
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At least the basic data should be the same so that you have a quick overview and everything is where you are looking for it. Dimensions, year of manufacture, price etc. should be in a standard format. In addition, this should be a kind of table book, there is also everything built the same.
  
Gewisse Standards sind sicherlich von Nöten, da gebe ich Dir zu 100% recht. Ob das hier eine Art Tabellenbuch ist, oder sein soll sei mal dahingestellt - wäre doch klasse wenn man das Wiki auch wegen interessanten, passionierten Produktbeschreibungen mit persönlicher Note besuchen würde!? Es ist wohl eine Gradwanderung zwischen Überblick und individueller Gestaltungsfreiheit. Wie gesagt, ich rede hier nicht von der Abschaffung der Vorlagen, lediglich der Textbaustein [[Vorlage:Nicht vorlagenkonform|nicht Vorlagenkonform]] ist mir bei vielen Artikeln als fehl am Platze erschienen - die Artikel waren übersichtlich und mit viel Liebe zum Detail ausgearbeitet worden.
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Certain standards are certainly necessary, I agree with you 100%. Whether this is or should be a kind of table book is a moot point - it would be great if people would visit the wiki for interesting, passionate product descriptions with a personal touch! I guess it's a balancing act between overview and individual freedom of design. As I said, I'm not talking about the abolition of templates, only the text module [[Template:Not template-compliant|not template-compliant]] seemed to me to be out of place in many articles - the articles were clearly arranged and worked out with a lot of attention to detail, but did not correspond to the template.
Eine Einpassung in eine Vorlage wäre zumindest bei solchen Artikeln meiner Meinung nach unnötig bzw. eine Verschlechterung. Daher der Vorschlag in Zukunft nur noch den Textbaustein [[Vorlage:Braucht Arbeit|Braucht Arbeit]] einzusetzen. Markus
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A fitting into a template would be at least with such articles in my opinion unnecessary or a deterioration. Therefore the suggestion to use only the text module [[Template:Neucht Arbeit|Braucht Arbeit]] in the future. Markus
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Well, I'm also in favor of keeping the text module "[[Template:Not template-compliant|not template-compliant]]": the systematic arrangement of the data facilitates the overview and the comparison!
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"Interesting, passionate product descriptions with a personal touch" can then be added in the sub-item "Remarks".
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If in individual cases the label "not template conform" seems to be inappropriate, this can be discussed in the discussion page and the text module can be removed.
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Best regards
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Martin
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== new templates? ==
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In the page "product categories" and in the device database there are the categories
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* Microphones
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* Beamers
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* Blu-ray Disc Player
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* DVD Recorder
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* Video Recorder
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for which no templates exist!
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Shouldn't we create some?
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many greetings
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[[User:Bassfreak|Bassfreak]] 17:40, 6. Mar. 2015 (CET)
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== Power supply details ==
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Hello everyone,
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I think it would make sense to add the item "Power supply" (preferably before the item "Power consumption"?) in the section "Data / General".
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@ Admins / Mods: could you tackle this on occasion?
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many greetings
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[[User:Bassfreak|Bassfreak]] 12:38, 10. Mar. 2015 (CET)

Latest revision as of 07:38, 10 March 2015

If here templates for DVD-SACD-PLayer etc, so not only older devices are made, then it would surely also make sense to make a template specifically for multi-channel AV receivers, since these are now extremely different from stereo receivers and thus with the template of these can not be inserted properly. Even if you can read most of the technical data of the current devices on the manufacturer's pages, I think that this is still useful to insert these devices, because especially such information that can be found in a few brochures (adjustable crossover frequencies, for example) would then be readable here.

How do you think about it?


Text module not template conform[edit]

The text module "not template compliant" is in my opinion not (anymore) useful. Either an article is (essentially) found to be good, or it just needs some Work. It doesn't matter if the article conforms to the template. Furthermore, excessive use of the templates makes the articles sterile and boring. The templates are, after all, only meant to be an initial starting point. More individuality might not hurt. Shall we dare? Markus

My opinion: At least the basic data should be the same so that you have a quick overview and everything is where you are looking for it. Dimensions, year of manufacture, price etc. should be in a standard format. In addition, this should be a kind of table book, there is also everything built the same.

Certain standards are certainly necessary, I agree with you 100%. Whether this is or should be a kind of table book is a moot point - it would be great if people would visit the wiki for interesting, passionate product descriptions with a personal touch! I guess it's a balancing act between overview and individual freedom of design. As I said, I'm not talking about the abolition of templates, only the text module not template-compliant seemed to me to be out of place in many articles - the articles were clearly arranged and worked out with a lot of attention to detail, but did not correspond to the template. A fitting into a template would be at least with such articles in my opinion unnecessary or a deterioration. Therefore the suggestion to use only the text module Braucht Arbeit in the future. Markus

Well, I'm also in favor of keeping the text module "not template-compliant": the systematic arrangement of the data facilitates the overview and the comparison! "Interesting, passionate product descriptions with a personal touch" can then be added in the sub-item "Remarks". If in individual cases the label "not template conform" seems to be inappropriate, this can be discussed in the discussion page and the text module can be removed. Best regards Martin

new templates?[edit]

In the page "product categories" and in the device database there are the categories

  • Microphones
  • Beamers
  • Blu-ray Disc Player
  • DVD Recorder
  • Video Recorder

for which no templates exist!

Shouldn't we create some?

many greetings

Bassfreak 17:40, 6. Mar. 2015 (CET)

Power supply details[edit]

Hello everyone,

I think it would make sense to add the item "Power supply" (preferably before the item "Power consumption"?) in the section "Data / General".

@ Admins / Mods: could you tackle this on occasion?

many greetings

Bassfreak 12:38, 10. Mar. 2015 (CET)