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Schade: kein Bild, kein Baujahr, kein Preis.<br />
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Too bad: no picture, no year of manufacture, no price.<br />
Gibt's auch empfohlene Verstärkerleistungen und Impedanz?
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Is there also recommended amplifier power and impedance?
  
23.9.15, Freundliche Grüße, Analoghatwas
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23.9.15, Kind regards, Analoghatwas
  
== Antwort ==  
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== Answer ==  
  
The Wall ist der Center zu den "Klangbildern" vom Ende der 1990er Jahre. Bild kommt noch. Preis unbekannt, bei Myro anfragen. Es liegen noch welche auf Lager.
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The Wall is the center to the "sound pictures" from the late 1990s. Picture to come. Price unknown, ask Myro. There are still some in stock.
  
== Center und Klangbilder ==
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== Center and sound pictures ==
  
Vielen Dank für Ihre Infos.<br />
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Thank you for your info.<br />
Als Stereo-Hörer muss ich aber nachfragen: Center heißt für Surroundsysteme?
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But as a stereo listener I have to ask: Center means for surround systems?
Meinen Sie das auch mit "Klangbild"?
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Do you mean that also with "sound image"?
  
Freundliche Grüße, Analoghatwas
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Kind regards, Analoghatwas
  
== Antwort ==
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== Answer ==
  
Ja, die Wandlautsprecher waren als Mehrkanalsystem ausgelegt: Center "The Wall" mit 13er Koaxialchassis, "Klangbilder" (Stereo) mit 18er Koaxialchassis. Von den Klangbildern gibt es noch ein Paar bei Myro. Die Leistungsanforderungen sind nicht besonders hoch.
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Yes, the wall speakers were designed as a multi-channel system: Center "The Wall" with 13s coaxial drivers, "Klangbilder" (stereo) with 18s coaxial drivers. There is still a pair of the Klangbilder available at Myro. The power requirements are not particularly high.
  
Gruß, Wonneproppen
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Greetings, Wonneproppen
  
== Danke für die weiteren Infos :-) ==
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== Thanks for the further info :-) ==
  
sogar zu später/früher Stunde!<br /> - Anmerkung: Auch wenn es mit Myro vorangehen soll, und dort auch Kompetenz vorhanden zu sein scheint, halten Sie Haus mit Ihren Kräften!<br />
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even at late/early hours! <br /> - Note: Even if it is to go ahead with Myro, and there also seems to be competence, keep house with your forces!<br />
Fragte, weil ich die Soundwalls von Thorens wenigstens aus dem Katalog kannte.<br />
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Asked because I knew the soundwalls from Thorens at least from the catalog.<br />
Sehen Sie evtl. hier - fiel mir gerade dazu ein:<br />
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See possibly here - just occurred to me to it:<br />
http://www.thorens-info.de/html/thorens-zeittafel.html, dort unter 1978.<br />
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http://www.thorens-info.de/html/thorens-zeittafel.html, there under 1978.<br />
 
http://www.thorens-info.de/html/thorens-lautsprecher.html
 
http://www.thorens-info.de/html/thorens-lautsprecher.html
- da ist man vom punktförmigen Ideal (stimmt das eigentlich?) weit weg, oder? Schick wars ja schon.<br />
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- there one is far away from the point ideal (is that actually true?), isn't it? It was fancy, though.<br />
In diese Richtung arbeitet Myro nicht, oder?
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Myro doesn't work in that direction, does it?
  
Freundliche Grüße, Analoghatwas
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26.9.Kind regards, Analoghatwas
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== Answer ==
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No, Myro designs only impulse directional loudspeakers. This is not a given with the above speakers for various reasons and is a different principle.
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== Comparison with Thorens Soundwalls ==
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Considering that frequencies &lt; 150 or 200 Hz are directional independent, Myro should be able to build such a wall, right?
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The total diameter of 62 cm (audio test see link, I didn't do the math) for the bass is quite impressive . . .
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Best regards, Analoghatwas
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== Answer ==
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The subject is unfortunately too complex for a few short words. The arrangement of the drivers with their phase centers, the filters and the choice of drivers all play a role.
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Diaphragm area alone doesn't cut it, it's also about transient response, linear excursion and distortion. As I said, quite complex overall. This can be better explained in conversation, e.g. at one of the public listening appointments, announcements here:
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http://open-end-music.de/vb3/forumdisplay.php?f=184&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.yaudio.de/yaudio-club.html
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Just drop by! :-)
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Greeting, Wonneproppen

Latest revision as of 17:19, 27 September 2015

Too bad: no picture, no year of manufacture, no price.
Is there also recommended amplifier power and impedance?

23.9.15, Kind regards, Analoghatwas

Answer[edit]

The Wall is the center to the "sound pictures" from the late 1990s. Picture to come. Price unknown, ask Myro. There are still some in stock.

Center and sound pictures[edit]

Thank you for your info.
But as a stereo listener I have to ask: Center means for surround systems? Do you mean that also with "sound image"?

Kind regards, Analoghatwas

Answer[edit]

Yes, the wall speakers were designed as a multi-channel system: Center "The Wall" with 13s coaxial drivers, "Klangbilder" (stereo) with 18s coaxial drivers. There is still a pair of the Klangbilder available at Myro. The power requirements are not particularly high.

Greetings, Wonneproppen

Thanks for the further info :-)[edit]

even at late/early hours!
- Note: Even if it is to go ahead with Myro, and there also seems to be competence, keep house with your forces!
Asked because I knew the soundwalls from Thorens at least from the catalog.
See possibly here - just occurred to me to it:
http://www.thorens-info.de/html/thorens-zeittafel.html, there under 1978.
http://www.thorens-info.de/html/thorens-lautsprecher.html - there one is far away from the point ideal (is that actually true?), isn't it? It was fancy, though.
Myro doesn't work in that direction, does it?

26.9.Kind regards, Analoghatwas

Answer[edit]

No, Myro designs only impulse directional loudspeakers. This is not a given with the above speakers for various reasons and is a different principle.

Comparison with Thorens Soundwalls[edit]

Considering that frequencies < 150 or 200 Hz are directional independent, Myro should be able to build such a wall, right? The total diameter of 62 cm (audio test see link, I didn't do the math) for the bass is quite impressive . . .

Best regards, Analoghatwas

Answer[edit]

The subject is unfortunately too complex for a few short words. The arrangement of the drivers with their phase centers, the filters and the choice of drivers all play a role. Diaphragm area alone doesn't cut it, it's also about transient response, linear excursion and distortion. As I said, quite complex overall. This can be better explained in conversation, e.g. at one of the public listening appointments, announcements here:

http://open-end-music.de/vb3/forumdisplay.php?f=184<br /> http://www.yaudio.de/yaudio-club.html

Just drop by! :-)

Greeting, Wonneproppen