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'''Allgemein'''
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'''General'''
* Hersteller: [[Technics]]
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* Manufacturer: [[Technics]]
* Modell: RS-1700
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* Model: RS-1700
* Baujahre: 1978 bis 1986
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* Type: Tape machine
* Hergestellt in: Osaka, Japan
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* Years of manufacture: 1977 - 1986
* Farbe: schwarz, in Japan auch in silber
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* Made in: Osaka, Japan
* Fernbedienung: optional mit RP-9690 (Kabelfernbedienung) oder RP-070 (Infrarot-Fernbedienung)
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* Color: Black, in Japan also in silver
* Leistungsaufnahme: 160 W
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* Remote control: optional with RP-9690 (wired remote control) or RP-070 (infrared remote control)
* Abmessungen: Breite:456 mm, Höhe: 446 mm, Tiefe: 258 mm
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* Power consumption: 160 W
* Gewicht: ca. 25,7 kg
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* Dimensions: 456 x 446 x 258 mm (WxHxD)
* Neupreis ca.: 3.000 bis 3.400 DM
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* Weight: approx. 25,7 kg
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* New price approx.: 4.000 to 4.300 DM
  
'''Anschlüsse'''
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* Anzahl der Ausgänge: 2
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'''Connections'''
** Kopfhörer: 80 mV/8Ohm
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* Number of outputs: 2
** Line Out: 0,5 V (OVU)/an 22 kOhm oder mehr
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** Headphones: 80 mV/8Ohm
** DIN: Nein
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Line Out: 0.5 V (OVU)/at 22 kOhm or more
* Anzahl der Eingänge: 3
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** DIN: No
** Mikrofon: 0,25 mV (-72 dB)/4,7 kOhm
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* Number of inputs: 3
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** Microphone: 0.25 mV (-72 dB)/4.7 kOhm
 
** Line In: 60 mV (-24 dB)/150 kOhm
 
** Line In: 60 mV (-24 dB)/150 kOhm
 
** Trough Out: 60 mV (-24 dB)/150 kOhm
 
** Trough Out: 60 mV (-24 dB)/150 kOhm
  
  
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'''Technical Data'''
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* Max.coil diameter: 26,5 cm
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Drive: Direct-drive, collectorless DC motor with phase-locked quartz control for the tone shaft, two direct-drive, collectorless DC motors with tape tension control for the winding plates
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* Heads: 6 tone heads (headstock: RP-2R2R or RP-2R2RHF (lower gap depth)
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* Tracks: 4-track, 2-channel stereo, with automatic tape reversal on record/playback
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* Tape speeds: 9.5, 19 cm/s and 38 cm/s
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* Slip:
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* Synchronous slip:
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** at 9.5 cm/s: 0.018% (WRMS) +/-0.035% DIN)
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** at 19 cm/s: 0.03% (WRMS) +/-0.06% DIN)
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** at 38 cm/s: 0.06% (WRMS) +/-0.12% DIN)
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* Pitch fluctuations:
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* Overall frequency response:
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** at 9.5 cm/s: 20 - 15,000 Hz, +/-3 dB
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** at 19 cm/s: 20 - 25,000 Hz, +/-3 dB
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** at 38 cm/s: 30 - 30,000 Hz, +/-3 dB
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* Signal-to-noise ratio:
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* extraneous signal-to-noise ratio (pickup level = 3% total harmonic distortion):
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** at 9.5 cm/s: 64 dB
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** at 19 cm/s: 66 dB
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at 38 cm/s: 66 dB
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* Total harmonic distortion (0 VU): 0.8%.
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* Equalization:
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* crosstalk attenuation at 1 kHZ in stereo mode: 50 dB
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* Cancellation attenuation: at 19 cm/s: 65 dB
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* Premagnetization and extinction frequency: 120 kHz
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'''Special Features'''
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* Autoreverse operation (works via photocell, requires clear tape to be spliced in).
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Speed fine adjustment (recording/playback): +/-6%.
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Four-digit tape counter, real time display at 38 cm/s, other tape speeds require conversion.
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* "Isolated Loop" tape guide
  
'''Technische Daten'''
 
* max.Spulendurchmesser: 26 cm
 
* Antrieb: Direktangetriebener, kollektorloser Gleichstrommotor mit phasenstarrer Quarzregelung für die Tonwelle, zwei direktangetriebene, kollektorlose Gleichstrommotoren mit Bandzugregelung für die Wickelteller
 
* Köpfe: 6 Tonköpfe (Kopfträger: RP-2R2R)
 
* Spuren: 4-Spur, 2-Kanal Stereo, mit automatischer Bandlaufumkehr bei Aufnahme/Wiedergabe
 
* Bandgeschwindigkeiten: 9,5, 19 cm/s und 38 cm/s
 
* Schlupf:
 
* Gleichlaufschwankungen:
 
** bei 9,5 cm/s: 0,018% (WRMS) +/-0,035% DIN)
 
** bei 19 cm/s: 0,03% (WRMS) +/-0,06% DIN)
 
** bei 38 cm/s: 0,06% (WRMS) +/-0,12% DIN)
 
* Tonhöhenschwankungen:
 
* Gesamtfrequenzgang:
 
** bei 9,5 cm/s: 20 - 15.000 Hz, +/-3 dB
 
** bei 19 cm/s: 20 - 25.000 Hz, +/-3 dB
 
** bei 38 cm/s: 30 - 30.000 Hz, +/-3 dB
 
* Signalrauschabstand:
 
* Fremdspannungsabstand (Aufsprechpegel = 3% Gesamtklirrfaktor):
 
** bei 9,5 cm/s: 64 dB
 
** bei 19 cm/s: 66 dB
 
** bei 38 cm/s: 66 dB
 
* Gesamtklirrfaktor (0 VU): 0,8%
 
* Entzerrung:
 
* Übersprechdämpfung:
 
* Löschdämpfung:
 
* Vormagnetisierungs- und Löschfrequenz:
 
  
'''Besondere Ausstattungen'''
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'''Accessories (see below and under [[Technics_RS-1506_US|RS-1506]])'''
* Autoreverse-Betrieb
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* RP-9100 flight case (1)
* Geschwindigkeits-Feinregulierung (Aufnahme/Wiedergabe) +/-6%
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* RP-9110 Hard plastic dust cover to put on when coils are mounted (2)
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* RP-9120 Wooden side panels (Rio rosewood, veneered, thickness of side panels: 3 cm)
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* RP-9130 Brackets for shelf mounting (3)
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* RP-9690 Cable remote control for RS-1500 and RS-1506 (4)
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* RP-9170 Cable remote control for RS-1700
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* RP-070 Infrared Remote Control with Receiver and Transmitter (see below)
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* RP-10A 26.5 cm aluminium empty spool (5)
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* RP-2224 half-track headstock (6)
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* RP-2422 quarter-track headstock (7)
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* RP-086 Battery adapter for 24 V DC operation
  
== Bemerkungen ==
 
* Auf der RS-1700 lassen sich auch die Kopfträger der RS-1500 und der RS-1506 verwenden. Die RS-1700 erkennt diese Kopfträger automatisch und schaltet den Autoreverse Betrieb ab. Bei Verwendung des Kopfträgers der RS-1500 (RP-2224) sind mit der RS-1700 auch Zweispuraufnahmen möglich.
 
  
Typische Alterserscheinungen:
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== Remarks ==
* Abgenutzte Bremsbeläge. Die Filzbeläge der Wickelmotorbremsen sind in der Regel abgenutzt und das Band wirft Schlaufen, wenn man vom Umspulmodus in den Playmodus schaltet. Durch die Schlaufenbildung schaltet die Maschine ab und lässt sich erst wieder einschalten wenn das Band nachgespannt wird. Abhilfe kann man schaffen, wenn man die alten Filzbremsbeläge durch Wildleder ersetzt.
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* The machine is not EE tape compatible!
* Quietschen des Bandzählwerkantriebes. Die Antriebsscheibe des Bandzählwerkriemens verursacht beim Umspulen laute Qietschgeräusche. Diese verschwinden wieder wenn man die Achse dieser Antriebsscheibe ölt.
 
* Ausgeleierte Federn. Wenn die Maschine jahrelang mit eingespanntem Band herumgestanden hat sind die Federn der Umlenkrolle ausgeleiert. Die Maschine schaltet dann nicht mehr ab wenn das Band abgewickelt wurde, da die Umlenkrollen nicht mehr vollständig nach oben gezogen werden. Abhilfe schaffen hier nur neue Federn.
 
* Ersatzteile sind von Panasonic bzw. Technics nicht mehr erhältlich
 
* Die Wechselstromversorgung der europäischen Version ist umschaltbar von 110V/125V/220V/240V 50/60Hz. Die amerikanische Version ist nur für 110V/125V ausgelegt, lässt sich aber über einen externen Transformator (sog. Stepdown-Converter) auch am 220V/240V Netz betreiben.
 
  
Weitere Modelle der gleichen Serie:
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* The headstocks of the [[Technics_RS-1500_US]] and the [[Technics_RS-1506_US]] can also be used on the RS-1700. The RS-1700 automatically detects these headstocks and disables autoreverse operation. When using the RS-1500 head mount (RP-2224), two-track recording is also possible with the RS-1700. To get the original head mount (RP-2R2R) as a spare part is almost impossible even on ebay.
* [http://www.hifi-wiki.de/index.php/Technics_RS-1500_US RS-1500]
 
* RS-1520
 
* [http://www.hifi-wiki.de/index.php/Technics_RS-1506_US RS-1506]
 
* RS-1800
 
  
== Bilder ==
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* Typical signs of age:
[[Bild:RS-1700.jpg]]
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* Worn brake pads. The felt pads on the rewind motor brakes are usually worn out and the tape throws loops when you switch from rewind mode to play mode. The looping causes the key control to shut down and cannot be used again until the tape is retightened. You can remedy this by replacing the old felt brake pads with suede. How to do this is described in detail at [[http://www.hifi-wiki.de/index.php/Technics_RS-1500_US#Berichte Tips for repairing Technics RS tape machines]].
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* Belt counter drive squeal. The drive pulley of the tape counter belt causes loud squeaking noises when rewinding. These squeaking noises disappear if you oil the axle of this drive pulley.
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Worn out springs. If the machine has been standing around for years with the belt tensioned, the springs of the deflection pulleys are worn out. The machine will then no longer switch off when the belt has been unwound, as the deflection pulleys are no longer pulled completely upwards. The only remedy is new springs.
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Spare parts and accessories are no longer available from Panasonic or Technics.
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* The AC power supply of the European version is switchable from 220V/240V to 110V/125V 50/60Hz. The American version is only designed for 110V/125V, but can also be operated on 220V/240V mains via an external transformer (so-called stepdown converter). The only important thing about such a converter is that it can handle the power consumption of the machine.
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* Sending such a machine is a very delicate matter due to its heavy weight, as postal or parcel services are not exactly squeamish about such packages. I therefore recommend a personal delivery, even if you have to drive a few kilometers. Well packed, the Technics will even survive a trip across the pond. However, it is necessary to cover the front, back and sides with sufficiently thick polystyrene sheets. If the machine is only wrapped in crumpled up newspapers and styrofoam chips, the feet of the back or bottom panel or the switches, knobs or even the headstock on the front will inevitably punch into the machine when the package is thrown somewhere.
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* Matching equipment from Technics:
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** Amplifier: [[Technics SU-7300]]K, [[Technics SU-7700]]K
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** Tuner: [[Technics ST-7300]]K
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** Receivers: [[Technics SA-300]], [[Technics SA-400]], [[Technics SA-500]], [[Technics SA-600]]
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* Other models in the same series:
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* [[Technics_RS-777]]
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* [[Technics_RS-10A02]]
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* [[Technics_RS-1500_US]]
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* [[Technics_RS-1500_S4]]
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* [[Technics_RS-1506_US]]
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* [[Technics_RS-1700]]
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* [[Technics_RS-1800]]
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== Pictures ==
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* Image: Technics RS-1700
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[[File:Technics RS-1700-1.jpg]]
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* Picture: Technics RS-1700
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[[Image:RS-1700.jpg]]
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* Image: Technics RS-1700 accessories
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[[Image:Zub2.jpg]]
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* Accessories: 3: RP-9130 rack-mount bracket, 4: RP-9690 wired remote control (for RS-1500 US and RS-1506 US), 6: RP-2224 head mount (RS 1500 US), 7: RP-2422 head mount (RS-1506 US).
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* Picture: Technics RS-1700 accessories
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[[Picture:Zub3.jpg]]
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* Accessories: Infrared remote control RP-070
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* Picture: Technics RS-1700 accessories cover, infrared remote control and wooden side panel
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[[Image:RS1700US.JPG|700px]]
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* Picture: Technics RS-1700 in silver
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[[Image:Silberne_RS-1700-k.JPG]]
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== Reports ==
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Here are a few repair reports on faults with the machine, with a request to add them if anyone has ever had problems with the machine:
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* Instructions for disassembling and cleaning the switches: [http://www.tonbandhobby.de/rep-1506.htm switch-problems]
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* Brakes do not open in play or wind mode, noticeable by fidgeting idler pulleys and sudden machine shutdown. Possible cause see here: [http://forum2.magnetofon.de/board2-tonbandgeräte/board15-hilfe/7278-ersatztransistor-für-technics-rs-1700/#post75582 Replacement transistor for RS-1700]
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* For other general reports on Technics tape machine buying tips, care and repairs, see here: [[http://www.hifi-wiki.de/index.php/Technics_RS-1500_US#Berichte RS-1500US]]
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* [[http://www.mackern.de/index.php/2013/10/08/technics-rs-1700/ Mackern.de Read Hifi Technics RS 1700]]
  
== Berichte ==
 
  
 
== Links ==
 
== Links ==
* Bedienungsanleitung (kostenloser Download): [http://www.hifiengine.com/manuals/technics/rs-1700.shtml Technics Tape Deck RS-1700 Operating Instructions]
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* Promotional brochure for the Technics RS-1700, RS1506US and RS-1500US as pdf file in color: [http://www.gromit.dk/technics/rs-1500us.pdf Technics RS-1700, RS1506, RS-1500]
* Bedienungsanleitung (kostenlos, als pdf-Datei): [http://www.audiofriends.nl/technics/Technics%20RS1700%20Operating%20Instructions%20(Complete).pdf Technics Tape Deck RS-1700 Operating Instructions]
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* Operating Instructions (free download, registration required): [http://www.hifiengine.com/manuals/technics/rs-1700.shtml Technics Tape Deck RS-1700 Operating Instructions]
* Die Technics RS-Bandmaschinenserie: [http://www.sabinebendlin.de/tonbandwelt/big/27.htm Technics Bandmaschinenseite]
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* Operating Instructions (free download, as pdf file): [http://www.audiofriends.nl/technics/Technics%20RS1700%20Operating%20Instructions%20(Complete).pdf Technics Tape Deck RS-1700 Operating Instructions]
[[Kategorie:Bandmaschinen]]
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[[Category:Tape Machines]]
* Technics RS-Bandmaschinen und Zubehör: [http://www.thevintageknob.org/TECHNICS/RS1500/RS1500.html# The Vintage Knob]
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* Sevice Manual Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 (free download, registration required): [http://www.hifiengine.com/manuals/technics/rs-1700.shtml Technics Service Manual RS-1700 Vol. 1 and Vol. 2]
* Silberne RS-1700:
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* Technics RS tape machines and accessories: [http://www.thevintageknob.org/technics-RS-1500U.html The Vintage Knob]
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* Silver RS-1700: [http://my.reset.jp/%7Einu/ProductsDataBase/Products/Technics/Isolated_Open_Deck/Isolated%20Loop%20Open%20Deck.htm Japanese site] and [http://www.pluto.dti.ne.jp/~lusye/odio/tecni/tepe/rs_1700u(s).jpg another Japanese site]
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* [http://galerie1.magnetofon.de/categories.php?cat_id=6 Oliver's Technics tape machine collection]
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* There's no accounting for taste, at least the Black Magic doesn't look that bad [http://www.j-corder.com/Black_Magic.html Modified Technics tape machines] Silver plating the entire front panel of an RS-1700 is said to cost just under $1000.
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* Headstock RP-2R2R (unfortunately already sold!): [http://www.inpulse.co.jp/product/homeaudio/used/user/product/technics/pr-2r2r_01/index.htm RP-2R2R]
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* [http://www.mackern.de/index.php/2013/10/08/technics-rs-1700/ Mackern.de Read Hifi Technics RS 1700]
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[[Category:Tape Machines]]

Latest revision as of 04:12, 22 August 2020

Data[edit]

General

  • Manufacturer: Technics
  • Model: RS-1700
  • Type: Tape machine
  • Years of manufacture: 1977 - 1986
  • Made in: Osaka, Japan
  • Color: Black, in Japan also in silver
  • Remote control: optional with RP-9690 (wired remote control) or RP-070 (infrared remote control)
  • Power consumption: 160 W
  • Dimensions: 456 x 446 x 258 mm (WxHxD)
  • Weight: approx. 25,7 kg
  • New price approx.: 4.000 to 4.300 DM


Connections

  • Number of outputs: 2
    • Headphones: 80 mV/8Ohm

Line Out: 0.5 V (OVU)/at 22 kOhm or more

    • DIN: No
  • Number of inputs: 3
    • Microphone: 0.25 mV (-72 dB)/4.7 kOhm
    • Line In: 60 mV (-24 dB)/150 kOhm
    • Trough Out: 60 mV (-24 dB)/150 kOhm


Technical Data

  • Max.coil diameter: 26,5 cm

Drive: Direct-drive, collectorless DC motor with phase-locked quartz control for the tone shaft, two direct-drive, collectorless DC motors with tape tension control for the winding plates

  • Heads: 6 tone heads (headstock: RP-2R2R or RP-2R2RHF (lower gap depth)
  • Tracks: 4-track, 2-channel stereo, with automatic tape reversal on record/playback
  • Tape speeds: 9.5, 19 cm/s and 38 cm/s
  • Slip:
  • Synchronous slip:
    • at 9.5 cm/s: 0.018% (WRMS) +/-0.035% DIN)
    • at 19 cm/s: 0.03% (WRMS) +/-0.06% DIN)
    • at 38 cm/s: 0.06% (WRMS) +/-0.12% DIN)
  • Pitch fluctuations:
  • Overall frequency response:
    • at 9.5 cm/s: 20 - 15,000 Hz, +/-3 dB
    • at 19 cm/s: 20 - 25,000 Hz, +/-3 dB
    • at 38 cm/s: 30 - 30,000 Hz, +/-3 dB
  • Signal-to-noise ratio:
  • extraneous signal-to-noise ratio (pickup level = 3% total harmonic distortion):
    • at 9.5 cm/s: 64 dB
    • at 19 cm/s: 66 dB

at 38 cm/s: 66 dB

  • Total harmonic distortion (0 VU): 0.8%.
  • Equalization:
  • crosstalk attenuation at 1 kHZ in stereo mode: 50 dB
  • Cancellation attenuation: at 19 cm/s: 65 dB
  • Premagnetization and extinction frequency: 120 kHz


Special Features

  • Autoreverse operation (works via photocell, requires clear tape to be spliced in).

Speed fine adjustment (recording/playback): +/-6%. Four-digit tape counter, real time display at 38 cm/s, other tape speeds require conversion.

  • "Isolated Loop" tape guide


Accessories (see below and under RS-1506)

  • RP-9100 flight case (1)
  • RP-9110 Hard plastic dust cover to put on when coils are mounted (2)
  • RP-9120 Wooden side panels (Rio rosewood, veneered, thickness of side panels: 3 cm)
  • RP-9130 Brackets for shelf mounting (3)
  • RP-9690 Cable remote control for RS-1500 and RS-1506 (4)
  • RP-9170 Cable remote control for RS-1700
  • RP-070 Infrared Remote Control with Receiver and Transmitter (see below)
  • RP-10A 26.5 cm aluminium empty spool (5)
  • RP-2224 half-track headstock (6)
  • RP-2422 quarter-track headstock (7)
  • RP-086 Battery adapter for 24 V DC operation


Remarks[edit]

  • The machine is not EE tape compatible!
  • The headstocks of the Technics_RS-1500_US and the Technics_RS-1506_US can also be used on the RS-1700. The RS-1700 automatically detects these headstocks and disables autoreverse operation. When using the RS-1500 head mount (RP-2224), two-track recording is also possible with the RS-1700. To get the original head mount (RP-2R2R) as a spare part is almost impossible even on ebay.
  • Typical signs of age:
  • Worn brake pads. The felt pads on the rewind motor brakes are usually worn out and the tape throws loops when you switch from rewind mode to play mode. The looping causes the key control to shut down and cannot be used again until the tape is retightened. You can remedy this by replacing the old felt brake pads with suede. How to do this is described in detail at [Tips for repairing Technics RS tape machines].
  • Belt counter drive squeal. The drive pulley of the tape counter belt causes loud squeaking noises when rewinding. These squeaking noises disappear if you oil the axle of this drive pulley.

Worn out springs. If the machine has been standing around for years with the belt tensioned, the springs of the deflection pulleys are worn out. The machine will then no longer switch off when the belt has been unwound, as the deflection pulleys are no longer pulled completely upwards. The only remedy is new springs. Spare parts and accessories are no longer available from Panasonic or Technics.

  • The AC power supply of the European version is switchable from 220V/240V to 110V/125V 50/60Hz. The American version is only designed for 110V/125V, but can also be operated on 220V/240V mains via an external transformer (so-called stepdown converter). The only important thing about such a converter is that it can handle the power consumption of the machine.
  • Sending such a machine is a very delicate matter due to its heavy weight, as postal or parcel services are not exactly squeamish about such packages. I therefore recommend a personal delivery, even if you have to drive a few kilometers. Well packed, the Technics will even survive a trip across the pond. However, it is necessary to cover the front, back and sides with sufficiently thick polystyrene sheets. If the machine is only wrapped in crumpled up newspapers and styrofoam chips, the feet of the back or bottom panel or the switches, knobs or even the headstock on the front will inevitably punch into the machine when the package is thrown somewhere.




Pictures[edit]

  • Image: Technics RS-1700

Technics RS-1700-1.jpg


  • Picture: Technics RS-1700

RS-1700.jpg


  • Image: Technics RS-1700 accessories

Zub2.jpg

  • Accessories: 3: RP-9130 rack-mount bracket, 4: RP-9690 wired remote control (for RS-1500 US and RS-1506 US), 6: RP-2224 head mount (RS 1500 US), 7: RP-2422 head mount (RS-1506 US).


  • Picture: Technics RS-1700 accessories

Picture:Zub3.jpg

  • Accessories: Infrared remote control RP-070


  • Picture: Technics RS-1700 accessories cover, infrared remote control and wooden side panel

RS1700US.JPG


  • Picture: Technics RS-1700 in silver

Silberne RS-1700-k.JPG


Reports[edit]

Here are a few repair reports on faults with the machine, with a request to add them if anyone has ever had problems with the machine:


Links[edit]