Difference between revisions of "Talk:Dual CL 490"

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Ich höre dies Box seit Jahren und weiß nie, ist sie gut oder nicht, behalte ich sie oder nicht, sie hat auf alle Fälle einige besondere guten Eigenschaften und einige Eigenheiten bei denen ich nicht weiß, wie ich es beurteilen soll.
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I've been listening to this box for years and still don't know, is it good or not, do I keep it or not. It definitely has some special good qualities and some peculiarities that I don't know how to judge.
Meine jetzige Diagnose:
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My diagnosis so far:
Der Hochtonbereich klingt irgendwie schrill und etwas gefärbt.
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The tweeter range sounds kind of shrill and a bit colored.
Die Hochtöner sind wie nicht anders für die damalige Zeit zu erwarten, nicht hochauflösend. Das hat den Vorteil, daß sie fast unzerstörbar sind. Seit ich zu den vorhandenen HTern neue preisgünstige 8 Ohm HTer parallelgeschaltet habe, kann man sie anhören.
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The tweeters are, as expected for the time, not high resolution. This has the advantage that they are almost indestructible. Since I added new inexpensive 8 Ohm HTs in parallel to the existing HTs, they can be listened to.
Sämtliche Chassis klingen sehr kräftig bzw. sehr dynamisch. (Kinofilme höre ich damit besonders gerne). Der Basstöner klingt besonders dynamisch, allerdings nicht besonders sauber (etwas sehr bumsig aber trocken und gut gedämpft), ist relativ linear. Ich hätte gerne noch etwas mehr tiefere Tiefen, aber dann häte sicherlich die Dynamik darunter gelitten. Wie man weiß, ist sehr tiefer Frequenzgang und Dynamik bei den Bässen physikalisch nicht realisierbar.  
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All drivers sound very powerful or very dynamic. (I really like to listen to cinema films with them). The bass driver sounds particularly dynamic, but not particularly clean (a bit very boomy but dry and well damped), is relatively linear. I would have liked a little more deep bass, but then the dynamics would certainly have suffered. As you know, very low frequency response and dynamics are physically impossible to achieve with bass.  
Nicht zu ertragen war die Resonanzfrequenz bei Frauenstimmen, (dies stellte ich schon oft bei geschlossenen älteren Boxen, besonders schlimm aber bei DUAL-Boxen fest) deshalb schaltete ich einen Equalizer vor und stellte die 250 Hz auf -8dB, die 2 kHz auf +4dB.
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The resonance frequency of female voices was unbearable (I've noticed this often with older closed speakers, but especially with DUAL speakers), so I switched on an equaliser and set the 250 Hz to -8dB, the 2 kHz to +4dB.
Die Box ist belastbar ohne Ende. Deshalb und aufgrund ihres dynamischen Klanges werde ich sie versuchshalber an meiner Böhm Heimorgel betreiben.  
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The speaker is capable of handling loads without end. Therefore, and due to its dynamic sound, I will try to use it with my Böhm home organ.  
Schlagzeug klingt sehr gut und sehr lebendig.
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To sum up: nothing for relaxing music, but very good for films, speech and spirited music. Maybe another midrange driver would be recommendable, but I haven't found a closed one yet. I don't want to use an open one, as the speaker can produce a powerful sound pressure and the cone of an open MT would be overloaded.
Ich hoffe, ich konnte einen überzeugenden Klangeindruck übermitteln. Ich bin kein Akustikwissenschaftler, habe aber ein sehr sensibles Gehör und viel Klang-Erfahrung.
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Drums sound very good and very lively.
Vielleicht findet sich auch jemand, der einen Testbericht von einem Fachmann hat.
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I hope I was able to convey a convincing sound impression. I am not an acoustics scientist, but I have a very sensitive ear and a lot of sound experience.
Liebe Grüße Euer xahom-hfrf
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Maybe someone will come up with a test report from an expert.
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Kind regards from your xahom-hfrf

Latest revision as of 15:49, 17 July 2008

I've been listening to this box for years and still don't know, is it good or not, do I keep it or not. It definitely has some special good qualities and some peculiarities that I don't know how to judge. My diagnosis so far: The tweeter range sounds kind of shrill and a bit colored. The tweeters are, as expected for the time, not high resolution. This has the advantage that they are almost indestructible. Since I added new inexpensive 8 Ohm HTs in parallel to the existing HTs, they can be listened to. All drivers sound very powerful or very dynamic. (I really like to listen to cinema films with them). The bass driver sounds particularly dynamic, but not particularly clean (a bit very boomy but dry and well damped), is relatively linear. I would have liked a little more deep bass, but then the dynamics would certainly have suffered. As you know, very low frequency response and dynamics are physically impossible to achieve with bass. The resonance frequency of female voices was unbearable (I've noticed this often with older closed speakers, but especially with DUAL speakers), so I switched on an equaliser and set the 250 Hz to -8dB, the 2 kHz to +4dB. The speaker is capable of handling loads without end. Therefore, and due to its dynamic sound, I will try to use it with my Böhm home organ. To sum up: nothing for relaxing music, but very good for films, speech and spirited music. Maybe another midrange driver would be recommendable, but I haven't found a closed one yet. I don't want to use an open one, as the speaker can produce a powerful sound pressure and the cone of an open MT would be overloaded. Drums sound very good and very lively. I hope I was able to convey a convincing sound impression. I am not an acoustics scientist, but I have a very sensitive ear and a lot of sound experience. Maybe someone will come up with a test report from an expert. Kind regards from your xahom-hfrf