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@ Passat-Bemerkung: Kein Dolby C bei K-1000
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@ Passat note: No Dolby C with K-1000
  
Letztendlich wäre Dolby C nicht schädlich gewesen, (hat sich aber in der Breite nicht durchgesetzt). Das verbreitete Dolby B ist ja dabei. Die größten Modelle haben das professionelle dbx, was meines Wissens Geräuschspannungsabstände größer 90 dB bietet.<br />
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Ultimately Dolby C would not have been harmful, (but did not catch on widely). The widespread Dolby B is there, after all. The largest models have the professional dbx, which as far as I know offers noise spacing greater than 90 dB.<br />
Bei den späteren großen Modellen ist dann Dolby C, da gab es z.B auch teurere Autokasssettenspieler mit Dolby C, und dbx dabei, z.B. schon beim [[Yamaha K-1020|K-1020]], oder später beim [[Yamaha KX-1200|KX-1200]]. Somit kann ich die Entscheidung für den damaligen Zeitpunkt nachvollziehen.
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The later big models have Dolby C, e.g. there were also more expensive car cassette players with Dolby C, and dbx, e.g. already on the [[Yamaha K-1020|K-1020]], or later on the [[Yamaha KX-1200|KX-1200]]. So I can understand the decision for that time.
  
Freundliche Grüße, Analoghatwas
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Kind regards, Analoghatwas
  
Dolby C hat sich damals auf breiter Front durchgesetzt, dbx nicht.
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Es gab auch nur wenige Yamaha Tapedecks mit dbx:
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Dolby C was widely accepted at the time, dbx was not.
K-720, K-960, K-1000, K-2000, K-1020, KX-1200
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There were also only a few Yamaha tape decks with dbx:
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K-720, K-960, K-1000, K-2000, K-1020, KX-1200.
  
In der Theorie hat dbx zwar höhere Rauschabstände als Dolby C, aber in der Praxis ist Dolby C das bessere System.
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In theory dbx has higher noise margins than Dolby C, but in practice Dolby C is the better system.
dbx leidet in der bei Kassettendecks eingesetzten Version unter Rauschfahnen und anderen Artefakten.
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dbx suffers from noise tails and other artifacts in the version used with cassette decks.
  
Wie schrieb seinerzeit ein Gerätestester bei Klavieraufnahmen mit dbx: Klingt, als wenn der Klavierstimmer sein Butterbrotpapier im Klavier vergessen hätte.
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As a tester once wrote about piano recordings with dbx: "Sounds as if the piano tuner had forgotten his sandwich paper in the piano.
  
Und gerade bei der Neueinführung von neuen Sachen baut man die i.d.R. zuerst in die Topmodelle ein.
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And especially when new things are introduced, they are usually built into the top models first.
Yamaha hats damals nicht gemacht.
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Yamaha didn't do it back then.
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Well, at least Yamaha held on to dbx (KX-1200 until 1992), so it wasn't a flash in the pan. - Dolby C was already surpassed or replaced by Dolby S in 1990.<br />
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Furthermore, according to Wikipedia, dbx circuits are expensive, so they fit to top models. The frequency response of the K-1000 is similar to CD and high enough, and the drive itself is also capable of something.
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You write: "is usually built": As is well known, no rule without exception ;-): there was just decided differently. I find that rather positive. With the successor, and they come at Yamaha quickly and regularly, here the K-1020, are already met your requirements. <br />

Latest revision as of 12:26, 7 July 2016

@ Passat note: No Dolby C with K-1000

Ultimately Dolby C would not have been harmful, (but did not catch on widely). The widespread Dolby B is there, after all. The largest models have the professional dbx, which as far as I know offers noise spacing greater than 90 dB.
The later big models have Dolby C, e.g. there were also more expensive car cassette players with Dolby C, and dbx, e.g. already on the K-1020, or later on the KX-1200. So I can understand the decision for that time.

Kind regards, Analoghatwas


Dolby C was widely accepted at the time, dbx was not. There were also only a few Yamaha tape decks with dbx: K-720, K-960, K-1000, K-2000, K-1020, KX-1200.

In theory dbx has higher noise margins than Dolby C, but in practice Dolby C is the better system. dbx suffers from noise tails and other artifacts in the version used with cassette decks.

As a tester once wrote about piano recordings with dbx: "Sounds as if the piano tuner had forgotten his sandwich paper in the piano.

And especially when new things are introduced, they are usually built into the top models first. Yamaha didn't do it back then.


Well, at least Yamaha held on to dbx (KX-1200 until 1992), so it wasn't a flash in the pan. - Dolby C was already surpassed or replaced by Dolby S in 1990.
Furthermore, according to Wikipedia, dbx circuits are expensive, so they fit to top models. The frequency response of the K-1000 is similar to CD and high enough, and the drive itself is also capable of something.
You write: "is usually built": As is well known, no rule without exception ;-): there was just decided differently. I find that rather positive. With the successor, and they come at Yamaha quickly and regularly, here the K-1020, are already met your requirements.