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Die Scintilla ist bzw. war der zweite sogenannte Bändchen-Lautsprecher (nach dem Apogee-Debut mit dem "Fullrange"), den Apogee herausgebracht hat. Er wurde in den  späteren 80er  Jahren für den erstaunlich geringen Preis von 3.500,- USD angeboten. Es handelt sich hier um einen Magnetostaten, ausgeführt als Dreiwegesystem mit vier(!) ca. 12 mm schmalen Alu-Hochtonbändchen (zwei vorne und zwei gegenphasig arbeitende hinten) und einem 50 mm breiten Alu- Mitteltonbändchen in EINEM gemeinsamen Magnetspalt, beide Bändchen ohne Kapton-oder Mylarfolie zur Verstärkung, die Länge beträgt etwa 1350 mm. Aufgrund dieser Bauart sind diese Bändchen extrem niederohmig (insbesondere damals für die meisten Verstärker schwierig) und vor allem sehr leicht. Im Gegensatz zu fast allen späteren Mittel-Hochtönern sind dieses Bändchen "einzügig" ausgeführt, deswegen die Niederohmigkeit, aber gerade dadurch auch der hervorragende Klang, denn nur diese Bauform erlaubt es ohne die Kunstoffträgerfolie auszukommen.
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Der Tiefmitteltonbereich wurde/wird wie bei allen anderen Vollbereichs "Bändchen" Apogees mit einem folienverstärkten "Quasiribbon" wieder gegeben. Die Leiterbahnen sind mäanderförmig ausgeführt, hinter den Leiterbahnen befindet sich eine Lochplatte mit (hoffentlich) korrekt aufgeklebten Magnetreihen.  Es gab zwei Mäanderzuschnitte: ca. 34 mm breite Leiterbahnen für die berühmte 1-Ohm Version und ca. 16,5mm schmale, für eine reine 4 Ohm und eine von 1 nach 4 Ohm umklemmbare Version. Eine ganz frühe Version hatte einen Übertrager zur Impendanzerhöhung, aber davon wurden nur ganz wenige gebaut. Insgesamt wurden zu "Lebzeiten" von Apogee nach Schätzungen etwa 450-500 Paare Scintillas in den USA hergestellt, davon sollen ca. 40 Paar nach Deutschland geliefert worden sein.
 
Der extrem gute, hochaufgelöste und dabei immer äußerst musikalische Klang wird primär der 1 Ohm bzw. der in 1 Ohm betriebenen umschaltbaren Version nachgesagt. Der 1 Ohm Lastwiderstand stellt für alle diejenigen Endstufen ein Problem dar, die mittels höher interner Betriebsspannung (über +/-63 Volt DC) und relativ wenigen Ausgangstransistoren, z.B. 4...6 pro Seite) auf eher höhere Lastwiderstände (4...8Ohm) ausgelegt sind.  Endverstärker mit geringeren internen Betriebspannungen (bis +/-56V DC) und mindestens 6 Ausgangstransistoren pro Kanal haben damit kein Problem. Ähnliches gilt für Röhrenendstufen, sofern die Ausgangsübertrager auf 2 oder besser 1Ohm geschaltet bzw. gelötet werden können, und mindestens 6, besser 8 Leistungsendpentoden pro Seite vorhanden sind.
 
Speziell die Hochtonbändchen, aber auch das breite Mitteltonbändchen sind mechanisch SEHR empfindlich. Luftzug oder unvorsichtige Transdportbewegungen überdehnen die Korrugierung dieser Bändchen sehr schnell, so dass diese Elemente dann ersetzt werden müssen. Bei der Tiefmitteltonfolie ist die Randeinspannung aus einem Tesa-Moll ähnlichen Schaumstoff das Problem, dieser verrottet, und ist nicht auswechselbar ohne dabei die Folie zu zerstören. Dies äußerst sich in schnarrenden Begleitgeräuschen, die insbesondere von oberen bis mittleren Bässen (75/150Hz) angeregt werden und sehr störend wirken. Bei einem gebrauchten Exemplar mit Originalfolien bzw. Bändchen ist daher IMMER davon auszugehen, dass diese komplett ersetzt werden müssen. Dieses ist in Deutschland problemlos möglich, Fa. Bergwinkel Audio macht das in perfekter Qualität, mit den neuen, sehr genau gefertigten Originalfolien des neuen Herstellers. Kein billiges Vergnügen, aber dieser, eigentlich schon "Jahrhundert-Lautsprecher" spielt, wenn alles stimmt, so gut wie alles an die Wand was es derzeit aktuell neu zu kaufen gibt. Auf jeden Fall spielt dieser LS in der aktuellen 30-50T€ Liga. Viele Kenner der Szene sind der Meinung, dass dieser Lautsprecher - gerade in der 1Ohm Version- auch der insgesamt beste Apogee war, der je gebaut wurde. Gerade diese Version hat aber auch Apogee den Ruf der "Verstärkerzerstörer" eingebracht, obwohl nur dieses eine Modelle in der Palette diesen sehr niedrigen Lastwiderstand hatte.
 
Preise:
 
Es gab Zeiten, da konnte man eine gebrauchte und fast immer auch kaputte "Scinnie" für 500€/$ oder weniger bekommen, aber das ist jetzt vorbei.
 
Selbst defekte Exemplare bringen derzeit 1500€/$ und mehr, für überholte Paare sind 8 bis 10T€ und mehr anzulegen. Für eine Überholung sind 5 bis 10T€ einzuplanen,
 
je nach Aufwand, der über einen reinen Folientausch hinausgeht, z.B. für eine Lackierung oder einen Neuaufbau der wegen der niedrigen Übergangsfrequenzen aufwändigen Frequenzweichen.
 
  
Ab 2011 soll dieser Lautsprecher in Deutschland(!)als weitgehend originaler Nachbau hergestellt werden, Kosten um 25T€.  
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The Scintilla is, or was, the second so-called ribbon loudspeaker - after Apogee's debut with the spectacular "Fullrange"- that Apogee released. The pair was offered in the USA in the later 1980s for the astonishingly low price of $3,500. This is a full range dipole magnetostat, designed as a three way system with four(!) approx. 12 mm narrow aluminium tweeter ribbons: two in the front and two in the rear working in phase opposition (!), so that the high frequencies are radiated by a kind of pulsating, slim cylinder.
Eine passende Endstufe für niedrige Lasten um 1Ohm wird auch angeboten, Preis um 9T€.
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Furthermore, an approx. 45mm wide aluminium midrange ribbon, all five transducers in ONE common, very strong magnetic gap.
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Both systems consist exclusively of corrugated aluminium foil without Kapton or Mylar foil for reinforcement, the length is about 1350 mm. Due to this construction, these ribbons have an extremely low impedance, which was difficult for most amplifiers of that time, but most importantly, it makes them very light.
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In contrast to almost all later midrange/tweeter drivers, these ribbons are "single ended", hence the low impedance, but also the excellent sound, because only this design allows to do without the plastic carrier foil, which can bridge the otherwise unavoidable conductor gaps. The entire "diaphragm" here is at the same time the driven conductor, completely free hanging in the magnetic field.
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The low-mid range was/is reproduced with a foil reinforced "Quasiribbon" as with all other full range "ribbons" Apogees. The traces are meander-shaped, behind the traces is a perforated plate with - hopefully (unfortunately not always the case) - rows of magnets correctly glued in relation to the direction of current flow in the traces. There were two meander cuts: approx. 34 mm wide traces for the famous 1 Ohm version and approx. 16.5mm narrow ones, for a pure 4 Ohm and a version that could be switched from 1 to 4 Ohm. A very early version had a transformer for impedance boosting, but only a few of these were built. It is estimated that about 1000 pairs of Scintillas were made in the USA during Apogee's "lifetime", of which about 40 pairs are said to have been shipped to Germany.
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The extremely good, highly resolved and at the same time always extremely musical sound is primarily attributed to the mid- and high-bands, especially in the 1 Ohm or the switchable version operated in 1 Ohm. The low 1 Ohm impedance is a problem for all power amplifiers that are designed for higher load resistances (4...8 Ohm) by means of a higher internal operating voltage (over +/-63 Volt DC) and relatively few output transistors, e.g. 4...6 per side.  Power amplifiers with lower internal operating voltages (40 to +/-56V DC) and at least 6 or 8 output transistors per channel have no problem with this. The same applies to tube power amplifiers, as long as the output transformers can be switched or soldered to 2 or better 1 Ohm, and there are at least 6, better 8 power end pentodes per side.
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Especially the tweeter ribbons, but also the wide midrange ribbon of the Scintilla are mechanically VERY sensitive. Incorrect storage, drafts or careless transport movements overstretch the corrugation of these ribbons, so that the elements then sag too far and have to be replaced.  
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As with all Apogee full-range ribbons, the problem with the low-mid ribbon is the edge binding, which is made of a PVC-based foam similar to Tesa-Moll. This crumbles due to plasticizer loss after about 15 years. This damping foam cannot be replaced without destroying the bass foil. A decomposed edge restraint manifests itself in buzzing accompanying noises, which are especially stimulated by upper to middle basses (75/150Hz) and are very disturbing. In the case of a used instrument with original foils or ribbons, it should therefore ALWAYS be assumed that these must be completely replaced. This is possible with restorers in Holland, Switzerland, England, USA and Australia, who install the CNC-manufactured Australian foils from Graz. No cheap pleasure, but this loudspeaker plays, if everything is right, in terms of musicality and finest resolution - but not in sound pressure -, in the league of the current 20- 30T€ class quite in front. Many connoisseurs of the scene are of the opinion that this loudspeaker - especially the 1 Ohm version - was the best Apogee ever built. Just this version has also brought Apogee the reputation of the "Ampkiller", although only this one model in the range had this very low impedance.
  
Ein paar Daten noch:
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Regeneration of a decomposed rim has already been done successfully using very thin, neutral curing silicone rubber. This is then only carefully introduced into the foam from the front and, after curing, at least partially restores the desired properties. The advantage, apart from the considerable cost savings, is that the original foils, which are superior to the replicas in several respects, can be retained, provided they are undamaged.  
Höhe: ca. 150cm, Breite unten 83cm, oben 74cm, Dicke: 9cm (ohne Fußplatte)
 
Gewicht: verschiedene Angaben: 75 bzw. 90kg/Stck.
 
Trennfrequenzen: verschiedene Angaben: 500Hz/3kHz und 300 Hz/900Hz, Steilheit 6dB pro Octave
 
Empfindlichkeit: 79dB/Wm
 
Übertragungbereich +-3dB: 25Hz bis 20kHz
 
  
Anmerkung des Autors: ich besitze mehrere Apogees, darunter auch die Scintillas, und habe diese Zeilen nach "bestem Wissen und Gewissen" geschrieben.  
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A serious disadvantage of ALL Apogee full range speakers should not remain unmentioned: the bass foil tends to excite or produce various background noises. These can be: the already mentioned "buzz" caused by defective edge damping of the bass foil, buzzing/rattling caused by too loose upper/lower foil clamps ("upper/lower clamps", relatively easy to remedy). Furthermore by parasitic vibrations e.g. of the front mask or of crossover components (with some effort fixable).
Für Ergänzungen, Korrekturen oder Kommentare bin ich dankbar!
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Much worse is a wah-wah-like noise (internal designation at Apogee USA), or also called "foil shimmering", which is caused by the bass foil vibrating at certain frequencies, mostly very narrow-band with center frequencies in the range of 200 to 400Hz. The foil no longer oscillates in phase, but parts of the foil move forwards while others oscillate backwards. As this happens with slightly different frequencies due to the constantly changing foil width over the height, beats occur, i.e. cancellations and sometimes amplifications, hence the "flirring" or "wah-wah". This problem is very difficult or impossible to solve, at least with the installed foil. Although this phenomenon can occur strongly with pure sine tones even at the lowest levels (below to at one volt terminal voltage), it is surprisingly and fortunately rather rarely heard with music. If, then usually with longer notes of individually torn strings of acoustic guitar or solo singing. Apogee has been combating this problem quite successfully since the early 90's by using sinusoidal instead of straight horizontal conductor cuts of the bass foil. These foils were used on the Stage, Studio Grand and Grand. Measurements by the author have shown that the Graz foils, which are very well made, are particularly susceptible to this problem. It is suspected that the random irregularities in the more or less wide overlaps of the Kapton carrier film of the original membranes, which is composed of several transverse strips, had a vibration-inhibiting effect.  Interestingly, this topic is rarely or never discussed in discussion forums. Only in tests of different Apogees in 1988 in the magazine "Audio Critic" the problem was mentioned by name. 
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Therefore, before buying: be sure to connect a sine wave generator and tune through at low to moderate levels from 30Hz to as high as 10 kHz.
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Prices:
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There were times when you could get a used and almost always broken pair of "Scinnies" for 500€/$ or less, but that's gone.
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Defective ones bring 1000 to 1500€/$, for an overhauled pair 5 to 8T€ and more are to be invested.
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For an overhaul, 4 to 8T€ should be budgeted, depending on the effort that goes beyond a mere foil replacement, e.g. for a paint job or a rebuild of the complex crossovers. Replacing the bass foils yourself is extremely difficult and will definitely go wrong. Even the experts do not always succeed in this action at the first attempt.
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A few more data:
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Height: approx. 150cm, width bottom 83cm, top 74cm, thickness: 9cm (without base plate);
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Weight: different specifications: 75 or 90kg/piece;
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crossover frequencies: various specifications: 500Hz/3kHz and 300Hz/900Hz, slope 6dB per octave;
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Sensitivity: 79dB/Wm;
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Impedance: 1 or 4 ohms;
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Frequency response +-3dB: 25Hz to 20kHz
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Note: The author owns several Apogees, including Scintillas, and has written these lines to the best of his knowledge.

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The Scintilla is, or was, the second so-called ribbon loudspeaker - after Apogee's debut with the spectacular "Fullrange"- that Apogee released. The pair was offered in the USA in the later 1980s for the astonishingly low price of $3,500. This is a full range dipole magnetostat, designed as a three way system with four(!) approx. 12 mm narrow aluminium tweeter ribbons: two in the front and two in the rear working in phase opposition (!), so that the high frequencies are radiated by a kind of pulsating, slim cylinder. Furthermore, an approx. 45mm wide aluminium midrange ribbon, all five transducers in ONE common, very strong magnetic gap. Both systems consist exclusively of corrugated aluminium foil without Kapton or Mylar foil for reinforcement, the length is about 1350 mm. Due to this construction, these ribbons have an extremely low impedance, which was difficult for most amplifiers of that time, but most importantly, it makes them very light. In contrast to almost all later midrange/tweeter drivers, these ribbons are "single ended", hence the low impedance, but also the excellent sound, because only this design allows to do without the plastic carrier foil, which can bridge the otherwise unavoidable conductor gaps. The entire "diaphragm" here is at the same time the driven conductor, completely free hanging in the magnetic field. The low-mid range was/is reproduced with a foil reinforced "Quasiribbon" as with all other full range "ribbons" Apogees. The traces are meander-shaped, behind the traces is a perforated plate with - hopefully (unfortunately not always the case) - rows of magnets correctly glued in relation to the direction of current flow in the traces. There were two meander cuts: approx. 34 mm wide traces for the famous 1 Ohm version and approx. 16.5mm narrow ones, for a pure 4 Ohm and a version that could be switched from 1 to 4 Ohm. A very early version had a transformer for impedance boosting, but only a few of these were built. It is estimated that about 1000 pairs of Scintillas were made in the USA during Apogee's "lifetime", of which about 40 pairs are said to have been shipped to Germany. The extremely good, highly resolved and at the same time always extremely musical sound is primarily attributed to the mid- and high-bands, especially in the 1 Ohm or the switchable version operated in 1 Ohm. The low 1 Ohm impedance is a problem for all power amplifiers that are designed for higher load resistances (4...8 Ohm) by means of a higher internal operating voltage (over +/-63 Volt DC) and relatively few output transistors, e.g. 4...6 per side. Power amplifiers with lower internal operating voltages (40 to +/-56V DC) and at least 6 or 8 output transistors per channel have no problem with this. The same applies to tube power amplifiers, as long as the output transformers can be switched or soldered to 2 or better 1 Ohm, and there are at least 6, better 8 power end pentodes per side. Especially the tweeter ribbons, but also the wide midrange ribbon of the Scintilla are mechanically VERY sensitive. Incorrect storage, drafts or careless transport movements overstretch the corrugation of these ribbons, so that the elements then sag too far and have to be replaced. As with all Apogee full-range ribbons, the problem with the low-mid ribbon is the edge binding, which is made of a PVC-based foam similar to Tesa-Moll. This crumbles due to plasticizer loss after about 15 years. This damping foam cannot be replaced without destroying the bass foil. A decomposed edge restraint manifests itself in buzzing accompanying noises, which are especially stimulated by upper to middle basses (75/150Hz) and are very disturbing. In the case of a used instrument with original foils or ribbons, it should therefore ALWAYS be assumed that these must be completely replaced. This is possible with restorers in Holland, Switzerland, England, USA and Australia, who install the CNC-manufactured Australian foils from Graz. No cheap pleasure, but this loudspeaker plays, if everything is right, in terms of musicality and finest resolution - but not in sound pressure -, in the league of the current 20- 30T€ class quite in front. Many connoisseurs of the scene are of the opinion that this loudspeaker - especially the 1 Ohm version - was the best Apogee ever built. Just this version has also brought Apogee the reputation of the "Ampkiller", although only this one model in the range had this very low impedance.

Regeneration of a decomposed rim has already been done successfully using very thin, neutral curing silicone rubber. This is then only carefully introduced into the foam from the front and, after curing, at least partially restores the desired properties. The advantage, apart from the considerable cost savings, is that the original foils, which are superior to the replicas in several respects, can be retained, provided they are undamaged.

A serious disadvantage of ALL Apogee full range speakers should not remain unmentioned: the bass foil tends to excite or produce various background noises. These can be: the already mentioned "buzz" caused by defective edge damping of the bass foil, buzzing/rattling caused by too loose upper/lower foil clamps ("upper/lower clamps", relatively easy to remedy). Furthermore by parasitic vibrations e.g. of the front mask or of crossover components (with some effort fixable). Much worse is a wah-wah-like noise (internal designation at Apogee USA), or also called "foil shimmering", which is caused by the bass foil vibrating at certain frequencies, mostly very narrow-band with center frequencies in the range of 200 to 400Hz. The foil no longer oscillates in phase, but parts of the foil move forwards while others oscillate backwards. As this happens with slightly different frequencies due to the constantly changing foil width over the height, beats occur, i.e. cancellations and sometimes amplifications, hence the "flirring" or "wah-wah". This problem is very difficult or impossible to solve, at least with the installed foil. Although this phenomenon can occur strongly with pure sine tones even at the lowest levels (below to at one volt terminal voltage), it is surprisingly and fortunately rather rarely heard with music. If, then usually with longer notes of individually torn strings of acoustic guitar or solo singing. Apogee has been combating this problem quite successfully since the early 90's by using sinusoidal instead of straight horizontal conductor cuts of the bass foil. These foils were used on the Stage, Studio Grand and Grand. Measurements by the author have shown that the Graz foils, which are very well made, are particularly susceptible to this problem. It is suspected that the random irregularities in the more or less wide overlaps of the Kapton carrier film of the original membranes, which is composed of several transverse strips, had a vibration-inhibiting effect. Interestingly, this topic is rarely or never discussed in discussion forums. Only in tests of different Apogees in 1988 in the magazine "Audio Critic" the problem was mentioned by name. Therefore, before buying: be sure to connect a sine wave generator and tune through at low to moderate levels from 30Hz to as high as 10 kHz. Prices: There were times when you could get a used and almost always broken pair of "Scinnies" for 500€/$ or less, but that's gone. Defective ones bring 1000 to 1500€/$, for an overhauled pair 5 to 8T€ and more are to be invested. For an overhaul, 4 to 8T€ should be budgeted, depending on the effort that goes beyond a mere foil replacement, e.g. for a paint job or a rebuild of the complex crossovers. Replacing the bass foils yourself is extremely difficult and will definitely go wrong. Even the experts do not always succeed in this action at the first attempt.

A few more data: Height: approx. 150cm, width bottom 83cm, top 74cm, thickness: 9cm (without base plate); Weight: different specifications: 75 or 90kg/piece; crossover frequencies: various specifications: 500Hz/3kHz and 300Hz/900Hz, slope 6dB per octave; Sensitivity: 79dB/Wm; Impedance: 1 or 4 ohms; Frequency response +-3dB: 25Hz to 20kHz

Note: The author owns several Apogees, including Scintillas, and has written these lines to the best of his knowledge.