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| − | * | + | * Manufacturer: Philips |
| − | * | + | * Model: CD 614 |
| − | * | + | * Year of manufacture: 1990 |
| − | * | + | * Made in: Belgium |
| − | * | + | * Color: black |
| − | * | + | * Remote control: Yes |
| − | * | + | * Power consumption: 16 W |
| − | * | + | * Dimensions: 420x 90 x 280 mm (W x H x D) |
| − | * | + | * Weight: 4 kg |
| − | * | + | * Original price approx.: 126,- EUR |
| − | ''' | + | '''Connections''' |
| − | * | + | * Number of inputs: |
| − | ** RC5 IN/OUT ( | + | ** RC5 IN/OUT (remote control system). |
| − | * | + | * Number of outputs: |
| − | ** Cinch | + | ** Cinch output L/R |
| − | ** | + | ** electrical digital output |
| − | ** | + | ** headphone connection |
| − | ''' | + | '''Technical Data''' |
| − | * | + | * Converter: 4-fold (176.4 kHz) oversampling with digital filter and two 16-bit D/A converters. |
| − | * | + | * Frequency response: 20 - 20,000 Hz |
| − | * | + | * Dynamic range: > 90 dB |
| − | + | Signal-to-noise ratio: > 100 dB | |
| − | * | + | * Distortion factor: < 0,016% |
| − | * Kanaltrennung: > 95 dB | + | * Kanaltrennung: >95 dB |
| − | * CD | + | * CD Text: No |
| − | * MP3 | + | * MP3 support: No |
| − | * Pitch | + | * Pitch control: No |
| − | * | + | * Auto play: Yes |
* Shuffle: | * Shuffle: | ||
| − | * | + | * Title programming: Yes |
| − | * Repeat: | + | * Repeat: Yes |
| − | * | + | * Plays CD-R : Yes / CD-RW: Not always |
| − | ''' | + | '''Special Features''' |
| − | == | + | == Remarks == |
| − | * | + | * Other models of the same series: |
| − | ** CD 604 ( | + | ** CD 604 (without remote control) |
| − | == | + | == Pictures == |
| − | [[ | + | [[image:Philips_CD614.jpg|Philips CD 614.jpg]] |
| − | ** Philips CD614 | + | ** Philips CD614 open |
| − | == | + | == Reports == |
| − | + | Can do anything,but no sound,anemic! | |
| − | + | Counterstatement to above... (must be): | |
| − | + | I use a CD 614 with Yamaha receiver to Mission-LS and a CD 630 with Teac amp to Yamaha-LS. That's even more lo hi-fi for audiophile minds. | |
| − | + | For comparison I have a Pioneer PDR-509, which isn't exactly cheap either. | |
| − | + | Both Philips CD players are equipped with really good converters (Twin DAC). The sound is pleasantly linear. | |
| − | + | The Pioneer sounds warmer and fuller, but the mids are a bit flat. | |
| − | + | Just plug in a good pair of headphones - for me it's a MB Quart Phone 95 X - and you'll hear more spaciousness and liveliness with the Philips, while the Pioneer feels like it's already adding the ambience of a living room to the sound. This impression is also noticeable through the loudspeakers. | |
| − | + | However, I would like to set my preferred sound on the amplifier! Therefore, a clear recommendation for the almost 30 year old Philips! | |
| − | + | The 90s design might be a point of criticism, but CD players with such a dynamic sound are really expensive today. HH | |
| − | + | These CD players are not enough for comparison! It must be at least a Philips CD471 from (1988 reference), so 30 years ago !!! Costs today 2019 - a Fuffi! HW | |
... | ... | ||
| − | + | I see. So the 1991 CD850 with Bitstream is junk. | |
| − | + | Amazing that the DAC with the TDA1541A is on all three and the difference in the chip between SAA7220P version A or B is supposed to be so huge. | |
| − | + | Thanks, all clear. HH | |
... | ... | ||
| − | + | I have now had the fun of comparing my CDP with TDA154x and CDM2 or CDM4. Let's go chronologically. | |
Philips CD650, Marantz CD273, Philips CD380, Philips CD473, Philips CD630, Philips CD614... | Philips CD650, Marantz CD273, Philips CD380, Philips CD473, Philips CD630, Philips CD614... | ||
| − | Test 1: | + | Test 1: With TEAC A-R500 with YAMAHA NS-G40, RCA cable from Wireworld, LS cable from Oehlbach. |
| − | Test 2: | + | Test 2: With MB Quart Phone 95 X at TEAC A-R500 (otherwise the Marantz would have lost out completely and the CD380 partially due to lack of volume control). |
| − | + | Conclusion: The 614 is simply the most ANALYTIC of all. Dry as a pancake, if you will. But why do I have tone controls on my amp? My treble control is set to neutral and the bass control is set to minus 60%. At minus 30%, the CD614 is only a shade behind the others in terms of dynamics. They are all fine resolving and spatial anyway. The Marantz sounds the most rounded. The CD473 is louder than all the others, but that doesn't make it any more dynamic than the CD650, for example. For listening with headphones I use the CD614. Here I personally like the output at its own output best. Anyway, this entry-level player with its TDA1543 HAS enough sound and blood and a quality that is not achieved for most people today in view of YouTube, streaming, MP3/4, Bluetooth and other "compression crimes" in everyday life anyway. Plus, it depends on the other parts of the playback chain. | |
| − | + | Maybe I'll treat myself and have one of the players with TDA1541* modified to non-oversampling. See if after that I wonder why I didn't do it much earlier. | |
HH | HH | ||
| + | |||
| + | I'm not kidding. | ||
| + | To even comment on sonic references, you definitely need speakers with tweeter & midrange domes (BR 25, or AX 80)!!! - Also a Yamaha 870 must be at least, WATT doesn't matter !!! The CD player lacks space - and this can ONLY be heard with such speakers and amplifiers. With cardboard as midrange driver, one remains with the mediocrity! For 20 years now, loudspeaker manufacturers have been saving these midrange domes - which at that time cost approx. 40 DM per unit, today the loudspeaker manufacturer gets a cardboard midrange driver for approx. 5 € per unit, what a miracle! | ||
| + | Examples: a Philips CD 650, 471, ect. FIVE stars! - a 380 is e.g. scrap, there it was also with Philips past. MP3 and such are telephone quality, we are here on HiFi sides, NOCH! | ||
| + | Sorry, that's why it's not so easy to make out a difference today, that's why vinyl has a renaissance!HW | ||
== Links == | == Links == | ||
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Latest revision as of 07:23, 29 May 2019
Data[edit]
General
- Manufacturer: Philips
- Model: CD 614
- Year of manufacture: 1990
- Made in: Belgium
- Color: black
- Remote control: Yes
- Power consumption: 16 W
- Dimensions: 420x 90 x 280 mm (W x H x D)
- Weight: 4 kg
- Original price approx.: 126,- EUR
Connections
- Number of inputs:
- RC5 IN/OUT (remote control system).
- Number of outputs:
- Cinch output L/R
- electrical digital output
- headphone connection
Technical Data
- Converter: 4-fold (176.4 kHz) oversampling with digital filter and two 16-bit D/A converters.
- Frequency response: 20 - 20,000 Hz
- Dynamic range: > 90 dB
Signal-to-noise ratio: > 100 dB
- Distortion factor: < 0,016%
- Kanaltrennung: >95 dB
- CD Text: No
- MP3 support: No
- Pitch control: No
- Auto play: Yes
- Shuffle:
- Title programming: Yes
- Repeat: Yes
- Plays CD-R : Yes / CD-RW: Not always
Special Features
Remarks[edit]
- Other models of the same series:
- CD 604 (without remote control)
Pictures[edit]
- Philips CD614 open
Reports[edit]
Can do anything,but no sound,anemic!
Counterstatement to above... (must be):
I use a CD 614 with Yamaha receiver to Mission-LS and a CD 630 with Teac amp to Yamaha-LS. That's even more lo hi-fi for audiophile minds.
For comparison I have a Pioneer PDR-509, which isn't exactly cheap either.
Both Philips CD players are equipped with really good converters (Twin DAC). The sound is pleasantly linear.
The Pioneer sounds warmer and fuller, but the mids are a bit flat.
Just plug in a good pair of headphones - for me it's a MB Quart Phone 95 X - and you'll hear more spaciousness and liveliness with the Philips, while the Pioneer feels like it's already adding the ambience of a living room to the sound. This impression is also noticeable through the loudspeakers.
However, I would like to set my preferred sound on the amplifier! Therefore, a clear recommendation for the almost 30 year old Philips!
The 90s design might be a point of criticism, but CD players with such a dynamic sound are really expensive today. HH
These CD players are not enough for comparison! It must be at least a Philips CD471 from (1988 reference), so 30 years ago !!! Costs today 2019 - a Fuffi! HW
...
I see. So the 1991 CD850 with Bitstream is junk. Amazing that the DAC with the TDA1541A is on all three and the difference in the chip between SAA7220P version A or B is supposed to be so huge. Thanks, all clear. HH
...
I have now had the fun of comparing my CDP with TDA154x and CDM2 or CDM4. Let's go chronologically. Philips CD650, Marantz CD273, Philips CD380, Philips CD473, Philips CD630, Philips CD614... Test 1: With TEAC A-R500 with YAMAHA NS-G40, RCA cable from Wireworld, LS cable from Oehlbach. Test 2: With MB Quart Phone 95 X at TEAC A-R500 (otherwise the Marantz would have lost out completely and the CD380 partially due to lack of volume control). Conclusion: The 614 is simply the most ANALYTIC of all. Dry as a pancake, if you will. But why do I have tone controls on my amp? My treble control is set to neutral and the bass control is set to minus 60%. At minus 30%, the CD614 is only a shade behind the others in terms of dynamics. They are all fine resolving and spatial anyway. The Marantz sounds the most rounded. The CD473 is louder than all the others, but that doesn't make it any more dynamic than the CD650, for example. For listening with headphones I use the CD614. Here I personally like the output at its own output best. Anyway, this entry-level player with its TDA1543 HAS enough sound and blood and a quality that is not achieved for most people today in view of YouTube, streaming, MP3/4, Bluetooth and other "compression crimes" in everyday life anyway. Plus, it depends on the other parts of the playback chain. Maybe I'll treat myself and have one of the players with TDA1541* modified to non-oversampling. See if after that I wonder why I didn't do it much earlier. HH
I'm not kidding. To even comment on sonic references, you definitely need speakers with tweeter & midrange domes (BR 25, or AX 80)!!! - Also a Yamaha 870 must be at least, WATT doesn't matter !!! The CD player lacks space - and this can ONLY be heard with such speakers and amplifiers. With cardboard as midrange driver, one remains with the mediocrity! For 20 years now, loudspeaker manufacturers have been saving these midrange domes - which at that time cost approx. 40 DM per unit, today the loudspeaker manufacturer gets a cardboard midrange driver for approx. 5 € per unit, what a miracle! Examples: a Philips CD 650, 471, ect. FIVE stars! - a 380 is e.g. scrap, there it was also with Philips past. MP3 and such are telephone quality, we are here on HiFi sides, NOCH! Sorry, that's why it's not so easy to make out a difference today, that's why vinyl has a renaissance!HW
Links[edit]
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